You Can’t Say That in Court!

A bi-weekly podcast that raises awareness about family violence and the challenges survivors face as they navigate the BC family legal system. The podcast collectively identifies barriers and calls for positive changes to be made for survivors across the province! Made possible with funding from Women and Gender Equality Canada.
Episodes
Episodes



Friday Oct 31, 2025
Episode 18: Protecting Yourself Against Tech Facilitated Violence
Friday Oct 31, 2025
Friday Oct 31, 2025
ABOUT THIS EPISODE: In this episode, we talk about technology-facilitated abuse which is when tech or online tools are used to control, harass, or track a partner. We share examples like location tracking, email hacking, and misuse of cloud storage, and offer simple safety tips like changing passwords and resetting devices. As we near the end of the season, we highlight ways to stay safe and where to find support.
Learn more about the resources at:
BCSTH Technology Safety - https://bcsth.ca/project/technology-safety/ Women’s Shelters Canada Tech Safety - https://techsafety.ca/
LEGAL DISCLAIMER: Everything that we have said today is not legal advice. If you or someone you know needs legal advice, please consult with a lawyer.
TRIGGER WARNING: Our podcast series will discuss difficult topics such as gender-based violence and intimate partner violence, including physical, sexual, emotional, psychological and financial abuse. Please be aware that this is a thread that is woven throughout all the episodes, and we hope you will take care of yourselves however you need.
MUSIC: Song "Crushing", performed by Reveille (license purchased for use)
GRAPHICS: By Melanie Ligale
This episode is made possible the generous contribution by Women and Gender Equality Canada, Femmes et Égalité des genres Canada
ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION: Rise is a community legal centre providing accessible legal services to self-identified women and gender diverse people in British Columbia since 2016. Our programs and services are aimed at providing limited legal services to economically disadvantaged clients, who are self-representing in their family law matters in BC
For more information on our organization, visit Rise Women's Legal Centre



Friday Oct 17, 2025
Episode 17: Family Law in BC: Finding a good fit with a family lawyer
Friday Oct 17, 2025
Friday Oct 17, 2025
ABOUT THIS EPISODE: Finding the right family lawyer in BC can be tough. In this episode, we talk about why it is hard, the difference between legal aid and private lawyers, and how to find someone who is a good fit for you.
Learn more in our guide, How do I Choose A Family Lawyer?: https://www.womenslegalcentre.ca/publications/how-to-choose-a-family-lawyer
LEGAL DISCLAIMER: Everything that we have said today is not legal advice. If you or someone you know needs legal advice, please consult with a lawyer.
TRIGGER WARNING: Our podcast series will discuss difficult topics such as gender-based violence and intimate partner violence, including physical, sexual, emotional, psychological and financial abuse. Please be aware that this is a thread that is woven throughout all the episodes, and we hope you will take care of yourselves however you need.
MUSIC: Song "Crushing", performed by Reveille (license purchased for use)
GRAPHICS: By Melanie Ligale
This episode is made possible the generous contribution by Women and Gender Equality Canada, Femmes et Égalité des genres Canada
ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION: Rise is a community legal centre providing accessible legal services to self-identified women and gender diverse people in British Columbia since 2016. Our programs and services are aimed at providing limited legal services to economically disadvantaged clients, who are self-representing in their family law matters in BC.
For more information on our organization, visit Rise Women's Legal Centre



Friday Oct 03, 2025
Episode 16: Family Law in BC: Support Workers are Working Overtime
Friday Oct 03, 2025
Friday Oct 03, 2025
ABOUT THIS EPISODE: Support workers are a key part of BC’s family law system, but they are underpaid, overworked, and undertrained for the legal demands they are facing. From victim services to outreach and housing, they are filling critical gaps left by inaccessible legal services. In this episode, we talk about funding problems, legal challenges, and why long-term support and training are so important.
LEGAL DISCLAIMER: Everything that we have said today is not legal advice. If you or someone you know needs legal advice, please consult with a lawyer.
TRIGGER WARNING: Our podcast series will discuss difficult topics such as gender-based violence and intimate partner violence, including physical, sexual, emotional, psychological and financial abuse. Please be aware that this is a thread that is woven throughout all the episodes, and we hope you will take care of yourselves however you need.
MUSIC: Song "Crushing", performed by Reveille (license purchased for use)
GRAPHICS: By Melanie Ligale
This episode is made possible the generous contribution by Women and Gender Equality Canada, Femmes et Égalité des genres Canada
ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION: Rise is a community legal centre providing accessible legal services to self-identified women and gender diverse people in British Columbia since 2016. Our programs and services are aimed at providing limited legal services to economically disadvantaged clients, who are self-representing in their family law matters in BC.
For more information on our organization, visit Rise Women's Legal Centre



Friday Sep 19, 2025
Friday Sep 19, 2025
ABOUT THIS EPISODE: In this episode, we talk about the real-life struggles people face when trying to deal with family court in BC’s rural and remote (RRN) communities.
We share what we found during our 2022 research, where we visited 40 communities and spoke with support workers and lawyers. People in these areas often face serious barriers like having to travel long distances to get to court, dealing with delays between court dates, and struggling to find a lawyer. These challenges make it even harder for survivors of abuse to get the support and safety they need.
Learn more in our report: Building Inclusive and Accessible Family Justice: Practical Approaches to Innovate Family Law Systems in BC’s Rural and Remote Communities
LEGAL DISCLAIMER: Everything that we have said today is not legal advice. If you or someone you know needs legal advice, please consult with a lawyer.
TRIGGER WARNING: Our podcast series will discuss difficult topics such as gender-based violence and intimate partner violence, including physical, sexual, emotional, psychological and financial abuse. Please be aware that this is a thread that is woven throughout all the episodes, and we hope you will take care of yourselves however you need.
MUSIC: Song "Crushing", performed by Reveille (license purchased for use)
GRAPHICS: By Melanie Ligale
This episode is made possible the generous contribution by Women and Gender Equality Canada, Femmes et Égalité des genres Canada
ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION: Rise is a community legal centre providing accessible legal services to self-identified women and gender diverse people in British Columbia since 2016. Our programs and services are aimed at providing limited legal services to economically disadvantaged clients, who are self-representing in their family law matters in BC
For more information on our organization, visit Rise Women's Legal Centre



Friday Sep 05, 2025
Episode 14: Legal Intersections with Family Law - Bridging the Gaps
Friday Sep 05, 2025
Friday Sep 05, 2025
ABOUT THIS EPISODE: This episode is the final episode of a five part series that was recorded in 2024. Stephanie and Vicky continue their conversation with Stephanie Hodgson and Melissa Klages. The five part series discusses the problems when family law overlaps with immigration, criminal and child protection law (or family policing).
This last episode in the series ties up everything up and discusses the strategies on how to create a good support system for clients.
LEGAL DISCLAIMER: Everything that we have said today is not legal advice. If you or someone you know needs legal advice, please consult with a lawyer.
TRIGGER WARNING: Our podcast series will discuss difficult topics such as gender-based violence and intimate partner violence, including physical, sexual, emotional, psychological and financial abuse. Please be aware that this is a thread that is woven throughout all the episodes, and we hope you will take care of yourselves however you need.
MUSIC: Song "Crushing", performed by Reveille (license purchased for use)
GRAPHICS: By Melanie Ligale
This episode is made possible the generous contribution by Women and Gender Equality Canada, Femmes et Égalité des genres Canada
ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION: Rise is a community legal centre providing accessible legal services to self-identified women and gender diverse people in British Columbia since 2016. Our programs and services are aimed at providing limited legal services to economically disadvantaged clients, who are self-representing in their family law matters in BC
For more information on our organization, visit Rise Women's Legal Centre



Friday Aug 22, 2025
Episode 13: Legal Intersections with Family Law - Strategic Collaborations
Friday Aug 22, 2025
Friday Aug 22, 2025
ABOUT THIS EPISODE: This episode is part four of a five part series that was recorded in 2024. Stephanie and Vicky continue their conversation with Stephanie Hodgson, and Melissa Klages. The five part series discusses the problems when family law overlaps with immigration, criminal and child protection law (or family policing).
Lawyers are not in a position to take on legal matters where they are not qualified so if there are multiple matters, there will be a different lawyer for each area of law (when a client can afford it!). This episode discusses some practical approaches lawyers can take to help when there is more than one legal issue at a time.
LEGAL DISCLAIMER: Everything that we have said today is not legal advice. If you or someone you know needs legal advice, please consult with a lawyer.
TRIGGER WARNING: Our podcast series will discuss difficult topics such as gender-based violence and intimate partner violence, including physical, sexual, emotional, psychological and financial abuse. Please be aware that this is a thread that is woven throughout all the episodes, and we hope you will take care of yourselves however you need.
MUSIC: Song "Crushing", performed by Reveille (license purchased for use)
GRAPHICS: By Melanie Ligale
This episode is made possible the generous contribution by Women and Gender Equality Canada, Femmes et Égalité des genres Canada
ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION: Rise is a community legal centre providing accessible legal services to self-identified women and gender diverse people in British Columbia since 2016. Our programs and services are aimed at providing limited legal services to economically disadvantaged clients, who are self-representing in their family law matters in BC
For more information on our organization, visit Rise Women's Legal Centre



Friday Aug 08, 2025
Episode 12: Legal Intersections with Family Law - the Harm of Investigations
Friday Aug 08, 2025
Friday Aug 08, 2025
ABOUT THIS EPISODE: This episode is part three of a five part series that was recorded in 2024. Stephanie and Vicky continue their conversation with Stephanie Hodgson, and Melissa Klages. The five part series discusses the problems when family law overlaps with immigration, criminal and child protection law (or family policing). This episode discusses how different areas of law can intersect with family law.
LEGAL DISCLAIMER: Everything that we have said today is not legal advice. If you or someone you know needs legal advice, please consult with a lawyer.
TRIGGER WARNING: Our podcast series will discuss difficult topics such as gender-based violence and intimate partner violence, including physical, sexual, emotional, psychological and financial abuse. Please be aware that this is a thread that is woven throughout all the episodes, and we hope you will take care of yourselves however you need.
MUSIC: Song "Crushing", performed by Reveille (license purchased for use)
GRAPHICS: By Melanie Ligale
This episode is made possible the generous contribution by Women and Gender Equality Canada, Femmes et Égalité des genres Canada
ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION: Rise is a community legal centre providing accessible legal services to self-identified women and gender diverse people in British Columbia since 2016. Our programs and services are aimed at providing limited legal services to economically disadvantaged clients, who are self-representing in their family law matters in BC
For more information on our organization, visit Rise Women's Legal Centre



Friday Jul 25, 2025
Episode 11: Legal Intersections with Family Law - Surviving the System
Friday Jul 25, 2025
Friday Jul 25, 2025
ABOUT THIS EPISODE: This episode is part two of a five part series that was recorded in 2024. Stephanie and Vicky had invited two lawyers, one who has been part of this podcast earlier - Stephanie Hodgson, and Melissa Klages, managing lawyer at Arrow law in what is colonially known Revelstoke.
The five part series discusses the problems when family law overlaps with immigration, criminal and child protection law (or family policing). This episode discusses the complications when different areas of law become interconnected.
LEGAL DISCLAIMER: Everything that we have said today is not legal advice. If you or someone you know needs legal advice, please consult with a lawyer.
TRIGGER WARNING: Our podcast series will discuss difficult topics such as gender-based violence and intimate partner violence, including physical, sexual, emotional, psychological and financial abuse. Please be aware that this is a thread that is woven throughout all the episodes, and we hope you will take care of yourselves however you need.
MUSIC: Song "Crushing", performed by Reveille (license purchased for use)
GRAPHICS: By Melanie Ligale
This episode is made possible the generous contribution by Women and Gender Equality Canada, Femmes et Égalité des genres Canada
ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION: Rise is a community legal centre providing accessible legal services to self-identified women and gender diverse people in British Columbia since 2016. Our programs and services are aimed at providing limited legal services to economically disadvantaged clients, who are self-representing in their family law matters in BC.
For more information on our organization, visit Rise Women's Legal Centre



Friday Jul 11, 2025
Episode 10: Legal Intersections with Family Law -Trapped Twice
Friday Jul 11, 2025
Friday Jul 11, 2025
ABOUT THIS EPISODE: This episode is part one of a five part series that was recorded in 2024. Stephanie and Vicky had invited two lawyers, one who has been part of this podcast earlier - Stephanie Hodgson, and Melissa Klages, managing lawyer at Arrow law in what is colonially known Revelstoke.
The five part series discusses the problems when family law overlaps with immigration, criminal and child protection law (or family policing). This episode focuses on how the overlap of different areas of law can be used as a manipulation to cause harm to survivors. Note: Stephanie Hodgson refers to family legal clinics in the episode and mentions that they are yet to open. Since recording this episode, the legal clinics have opened up.
LEGAL DISCLAIMER: Everything that we have said today is not legal advice. If you or someone you know needs legal advice, please consult with a lawyer.
TRIGGER WARNING: Our podcast series will discuss difficult topics such as gender-based violence and intimate partner violence, including physical, sexual, emotional, psychological and financial abuse. Please be aware that this is a thread that is woven throughout all the episodes, and we hope you will take care of yourselves however you need.
MUSIC: Song "Crushing", performed by Reveille (license purchased for use)
GRAPHICS: By Melanie Ligale
This episode is made possible the generous contribution by Women and Gender Equality Canada, Femmes et Égalité des genres Canada
ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION: Rise is a community legal centre providing accessible legal services to self-identified women and gender diverse people in British Columbia since 2016. Our programs and services are aimed at providing limited legal services to economically disadvantaged clients, who are self-representing in their family law matters in BC
For more information on our organization, visit Rise Women's Legal Centre



Friday Jun 27, 2025
Episode 9: Family Violence: Evolution of Family Law
Friday Jun 27, 2025
Friday Jun 27, 2025
ABOUT THIS EPISODE: In this episode, hosts Stephanie and Vicky are joined by Natalie Longe, Supervising Lawyer of Rise's Virtual Legal Clinic, to discuss the evolution of family law. Natalie was called to the BC bar in 1998, and has been practicing family law ever since. Prior to joining Rise she worked as a family law advocate at a transition house in Victoria for two years. Natalie brings a diverse wealth of knowledge and experience helping survivors navigate the BC family law system, and is currently running Rise's Counsel Connect program, which provides phone calls and virtual meetings for lawyers assisting clients who have experienced family violence outside of the Lower Mainland.
This episode talks about the evolution of what we know today as the Family Law Act from the Family Relations Act of 1972 and the integration of the language of family violence in the act.
LEGAL DISCLAIMER: Everything that we have said today is not legal advice. If you or someone you know needs legal advice, please consult with a lawyer.
TRIGGER WARNING: Our podcast series will discuss difficult topics such as gender-based violence and intimate partner violence, including physical, sexual, emotional, psychological and financial abuse. Please be aware that this is a thread that is woven throughout all the episodes, and we hope you will take care of yourselves however you need.
MUSIC: Song "Crushing", performed by Reveille (license purchased for use)
GRAPHICS: By Melanie Ligale
This episode is made possible the generous contribution by Women and Gender Equality Canada, Femmes et Égalité des genres Canada
ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION: Rise is a community legal centre providing accessible legal services to self-identified women and gender diverse people in British Columbia since 2016. Our programs and services are aimed at providing limited legal services to economically disadvantaged clients, who are self-representing in their family law matters in BC
For more information on our organization, visit Rise Women's Legal Centre

About Your Hosts
Vicky (she/her) is the Executive Director and Stephanie is the Community Engagement Coordinator at Rise Women's Legal Centre.
Vicky has worked in the fields of immigration law and family law for women experiencing intimate partner violence. In her career as a legal advocate and a lawyer, she has supported many women and families in navigating their immigration status in Canada, and the complexity of the family law system.
Stephanie comes to Rise from a victim services program where she supported folks who had experienced trauma or crisis and walked alongside them through the criminal court system. A common thread in her work has been amplifying the voices of those she supports as well as those she meets in her community volunteer work.



